Varieties of Consciousness TheorieswithRobert Lawrence Kuhn

Books Mentioned In This Interview

Robert Lawrence Kuhn received his academic training in brain research. He is best known for creating and hosting the PBS television series Closer to Truth. His books include, Closer to Truth: Challenging Current Belief, How China’s Leaders Think, The Mystery of Existence: Why Is There Anything At All? (with John Leslie), and Closer to Truth: Science, Meaning, and the Future. Kuhn is also the creator of the Landscape of Consciousness framework, an ambitious effort to organize and classify over 400 competing theories of consciousness. His website is https://closertotruth.com/about-closer-to-truth/

Robert discusses his lifelong quest to understand why anything exists at all and the nature of consciousness, culminating in his ambitious Landscape of Consciousness framework that organizes and classifies over 400 competing theories. He traces his path from early interest in parapsychology and brain research to creating a taxonomy spanning materialism, quantum approaches, panpsychism, dualism, idealism, and more, while examining implications for free will, life after death, AI consciousness, and virtual immortality. Kuhn emphasizes that no theory is final and that anomalous experiences, phenomenology, and challenges to human understanding further constrain any coherent account of mind.

00:00:00 Introduction

00:08:30 Early interest in parapsychology and brain research

00:16:45 Why is there anything at all

00:24:00 Creating the landscape of consciousness

00:32:15 Expanding the collection of theories

00:40:30 Organizing categories from materialism to idealism

00:49:00 Anomalous events, challenges, and phenomenology

00:58:15 Implications for free will and life after death

01:08:00 Personal view of consciousness

01:16:00 Conclusion

(Recorded on Saturday, July 18, 2026)

Check out the New Thinking Allowed Foundation website at http://www.newthinkingallowed.org. There you will find our incredible, searchable database as well as opportunities to shop and to support our video productions – plus, this is where people can subscribe to our FREE, weekly Newsletter and can download a FREE .pdf copy of our quarterly magazine.

To order high-quality, printed copies of our quarterly magazine: NTA-Magazine.MagCloud.com

Check out New Thinking Allowed’s AI chatbot. You can create a free account at awakin.ai/open/jeffreymishlove. When you enter the space, you will see that our chatbot is one of several you can interact with. While it is still a work in progress, it has been trained on 1,600 NTA transcripts. It can provide intelligent answers about the contents of our interviews. It’s almost like having a conversation with Jeffrey Mishlove.

Download and read Jeffrey Mishlove’s Grand Prize essay in the Bigelow Institute competition, Beyond the Brain: The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death, go to https://www.bigelowinstitute.org/docs/1st.pdf.

To order the second book in the New Thinking Allowed Dialogues series, Russell Targ: Ninety Years of ESP, Remote Viewing, and Timeless Awareness, go to https://amzn.to/4aw2iyr

To order a copy of New Thinking Allowed Dialogues: UFOs and UAP – Are We Really Alone?, go to https://amzn.to/3Y0VOVh

To order a copy of Charles T. Tart: Seventy Years of Exploring Consciousness and Parapsychology, go to https://amzn.to/4oOUJLn

Published on August 31, 2026

Transcripts

We do not yet have transcripts available for this interview.

If you are be interested in helping us transcribe into any language, including English, please email friends@newthinkingallowed.org.

Share