UFOs/UAP, AI, and Esoteric Goddess TraditionswithJoanna Kujawa

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Joanna Kujawa, PhD, is a Polish-born author, scholar, and spiritual detective based in Australia. She is the author of The Other Goddess: Mary Magdalene and the Goddesses of Eros and Secret Knowledge, and Alien Goddess: UFOs and the Goddesses of Ascension. Her website is https://www.joannakujawa.com/

Joanna explores the connection between UFO and UAP encounters and ancient esoteric goddess traditions, emphasizing how interdimensional beings may guide human spiritual evolution. She discusses her own lifelong liinal experiences alongside global apparitions such as Fatima, linking them to higher states of consciousness and Gnostic teachings. Kujawa also warns against ideological dangers surrounding AI, suggesting humanity must discern authentic inner ascension from deceptive technological “false light.”

00:01 Introduction: medieval encounters and liinal consciousness

01:44 Joanna’s background and spiritual detective work

06:01 Early UFO experiences and telepathic messages

09:33 Interdimensional beings and altered states

13:34 Baba Yaga, imaginal realms, and nature intelligence

20:49 Gnostic cosmology, Sophia, and false creators

31:12 Artificial intelligence and spiritual sovereignty

36:05 Fatima, white lady apparitions, and interdimensional light

43:56 Ascension teachings and the four levels of consciousness

54:01 Conclusion: remembering the divine spark and receiving help

(Recorded on November 21, 2025)

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Published on December 12, 2025

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