Ronnie Pontiac was the personal research assistant for Manly P. Hall at the Philosophical Research Society in Los Angeles. He is author of American Metaphysical Religion: Esoteric and Mystical Traditions of the New World. He is coauthor with Tamra Lucid of The Magic of the Orphic Hymns: A New Translation for the Modern Mystic.

This is the second interview about the writings of Stewart Edward White and the after-death communications involving his wife, Betty. Here he focuses on the apparently unconscious, similarities between the Unobstructed Universe material and the ancient Chinese teachings of the “golden flower” as well as the philosophy of Plato concerning the afterlife.

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:44 Life without physicality

00:06:00 Betty’s communications

00:14:50 Stewart’s spiritual practice

00:20:32 Can spirits “compel” the living

00:25:00 Comparisons with Plato

00:43:40 Cosmic consciousness

00:49:44 The Invisible’s plan

00:59:27 Uniqueness of the unobstructed way

01:02:19 Conclusion

(Recorded on January 23, 2025)

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Published on February 14, 2025