Here they describe how, after years of struggle, they have learned how to coordinate their activities and live in harmony in the body they share. The interview concludes with a duet in which they play guitar and sing together.

The native shaman learns to interact with the spirits of the underworld and the higher worlds in order to intercede in behalf of humans in the “middle world.” Michael Harner, Ph.D., has authored The Jivaro, Hallucinogens and Shamanism and The Way of the Shaman. He is currently actively involved in training westerners throughout the world to become shamanic [...]

Alison describes cultural astronomy as how much the sky has influenced cultures throughout history.

Here he focuses on the long history, within western science, of researchers exploring the effects and effectiveness of different drugs through self-experimentation.