Debra Jordan-Kauble was the central figure in Budd Hopkins’ classic book Intruders: The Incredible Visitations at Copley Woods, as well as its 1992 TV miniseries adaptation, Intruders, using the pseudonym “Kathie Davis” to protect her family. In 1992, she revealed her true identity and co-authored, with her sister Kathy Mitchell, Abducted: The Story of the Intruders Continues. That book was republished in a new edition in 2021. Her Facebook page is https://www.facebook.com/deb.kauble

Here she reviews the horrific incident that occurred in 1983 when a UFO actually landed in the backyard of her parents’ home, leaving marks on the lawn as well as terrified neighbors. This incident led to many physical and emotional problems. She also explains strange, ongoing interactions with non-human entities, as well as potential government surveillance. Looking back over many decades, she believes that these experiences have been beneficial in her life.

00:00:00 Introduction

00:07:28 The story in Intruders

00:19:47 Restoring lost memories

00:30:28 Emotional recovery

00:41:31 Budd Hopkins’ impact

00:49:59 Government surveillance

00:58:17 A hybrid breeding program

01:06:52 Two different kinds of dreams

01:19:05 Ongoing communications

01:26:45 Conclusion

(Recorded on May 31, 2025)

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Published on June 23, 2025