Julie Anderson, a former Playboy centerfold model, was an intimate companion of Adi Da Samraj from 1976 until 1992. During that time she was known as Kanya Samarpana Remembrance (also Swami Dama Kalottara Devi, and a number of other names). Her article, “The Real Practice of Guru-Devotion,” was published in the Free Daist Magazine in 1992.

In this heartfelt interview, she describes her situation in the 1980s, being in the middle of a scandal and lawsuit that affected the ashram and still leaves wounds. The discussion also focuses on the guru principle, and the many scandals involving religious figures in all cultures.

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:16 Universality of scandals

00:07:32 Julie’s role as Playboy centerfold model

00:15:53 The tantric tradition

00:30:15 Judgmentalism

00:37:42 Abuse

00:57:01 The pain of the world

01:01:07 The 1986 scandal at Adidam

01:21:01 Gratutude for the guru

01:24:53 Conclusion

(Recorded on January 23, 2024)

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