Dean Radin, PhD, is chief scientist at the Institute of Noetic Science in Novato, California. He is author of The Conscious Universe, Entangled Minds, Supernormal, and Real Magic. His latest book is titled The Science of Magic.
In this conversation, Dr. Dean Radin explores the intersection of magic and science, showing how ancient practices of intention and attention parallel modern findings in parapsychology and quantum physics. He discusses his experiments with magicians and meditators, revealing evidence that consciousness can subtly influence light, matter, and even biological systems. Dr. Radin also reflects on the ethical and spiritual implications of these findings, suggesting that the pursuit of real magic ultimately leads toward compassion, wisdom, and service.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:46 Breaking taboos between science and magic
00:06:34 Experiments with magicians and meditators
00:17:05 Coincidences, synchronicity, and funding “magic”
00:25:12 Consciousness interaction with photons
00:27:25 Blessing experiments with chocolate, tea, and water
00:32:06 Challenges of replication and epistemology
00:36:05 Chaos magic and mathematical theory
00:39:12 Metal bending and the mystery of intention
00:46:22 Divination, retrocausation, and how magic may work
01:06:02 Conclusion
(Recorded on September 30, 2025)
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Published on October 27, 2025
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