Symbolic versus Literal Perspectives on the Paranormal/SpiritualwithCharles Upton

Books Mentioned In This Interview

Charles Upton’s first books of poetry were published in 1968 and 1969 by Lawrence Ferlinghetti of City Light Books in San Francisco. He was then considered the youngest member of the “beat generation” as he was still in high school. He has subsequently written many books associated with the traditionalist school of spirituality including The Science of the Greater Jihad, Folk Metaphysics, Alien Disclosure Deception: The Metaphysics of Social Engineering, Day and Night on the Sufi Path, Dugin Against Dugin: A Traditionalist Critique of the Fourth Political Theory, System of the Antichrist and Vectors of the Counter-Initiation. His website is https://charles-upton.com/.

Note: There is a GoFundMe page for Charles Upton who is dealing with colon cancer. See https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-charles-upton-survive-colon-cancer

Here, Upton observes that there is a prejudice against looking at spiritual claims as literal, factual truths. This is a prejudice that is shared by both atheistic deniers of the spiritual and enthusiasts of symbolic interpretations of spiritual truths. Both groups tend to believe literal interpretations are somehow primitive. Upton offers some solutions to this impasse.

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:02 The Peterson/Dawkins debate

00:17:32 The paranormal as taboo

00:30:23 Truth value of religious claims

00:37:28 Traditionalist view of the paranormal

00:43:29 The paranormal and theology

00:51:17 The paranormal and spirituality

01:03:40 How to symbols and facts fit with each other?

01:10:24 Conclusion

(Recorded on November 29, 2024)

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Published on December 16, 2024

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